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Bike Fitting


We are one of the leading bike fitting experts in Surrey, Damian and Paul have fast approaching 60 years’ experience in the cycle trade and when it comes to bike fitting 'experience' is something you just can't buy! We are both passionate about correct bike fit and tailoring your riding position to the type of riding you do, or that you would like to be able to do, whether you are an elite racer or a beginner looking to your first bike, we have comprehensive fitting services to suit your experience and budget


C and N Cycles Bike Fitting Suite on the 1st floor

Essential bike fit £60.00. Suitable for the new road rider who is not using clipples pedals; also ideal as a 'Sizing Fit' for a new bike. The 'essential fit' is perfect is you have just purchased your first road bike and want to benefit from improved comfort by checking and optimising your key contact points on your bike, relative to your flexibility.

Interview covering cycle history, injury and discomforts on the bike, basic flexibility test, leg extension – saddle height optimised, saddle - width and tilt checked, stem - reach and height adjusted, bars – width, drop and reach assessed, recommendations on any parts needing replacing to achieve better fitting

Dynamic Fit £120.00. Our Dynamic fit is perfect for more experienced rider, club cyclist and sportive-endurance riders who ride for over 1 hour at a time and use a clip in pedal system.

Interview covering cycle history, future goals and aspirations and cycling limitations. Assessment of flexibility, range of motion, stability and asymmetry. Assessment of foot dynamics, cleats correctly positioned for comfort and injury prevention.  KOPS – correct  knee over pedal position set, seat height, fore-and-aft and tilt, seat to bar reach, handlebar stem height, handle bar width, drop, brake leaver hood reach, height and angle checked, bike measurements recorded. We can also supply custom made Sidas footbeds, note as part of the bike fit no extra labour charge is added; it's just the cost of the footbeds.

C& N Cycles bike fitting suite

We offer three different bike fit packages, from £60.00 up to £140.00, 'click for details' or to email click on the following link candncycles@gmail.com

Paul's personal Feedback from just a few of his recent bike fits: 

Frances 'Canyon Speedmax ' TT Bike (we fitted Frances earlier in the year to her Dolan Road bike): Once again Paul demonstrated his considerable experience and expertise and has transformed the comfort and handling of my TT bike - looking forward to smashing out some serious PBs on it now! Thanks Paul! Edit from Paul Frances was finding hew new TT bike uncomfortable and unstable to the extent that she was struggling to gain confidence in what are often quite difficult bikes to get used to anyway! Adjusting saddle height and setback as well as the TT bar extensions helped to enage her core and ‘BMR’ (Body mass representation) which both helped with how stable and comfortable the bike felt

Stuart Nash, Cannondale Super Six : Hi Paul, Just an update on todays 'Redhill Cycling Club' ride. This morning I rode nearly 70 miles with RCC with no issues at all.  Also achieved over 25 PRs on Strava so I think that it speaks for itself. I am definitely stronger up the long drags as you pointed out and also was 1st out of 13 riders up the big climbs of the day including Leith Hill. There were also some comments from other riders saying how strong I was on the bike today and I think you might get a few in for a bike fit. Once again Paul many thanks for last weeks bike fit and I wish I had it done years ago!Kind regards; Stuart. Edit from Paul, Before the 'fit' Stuart had been having neck and lower back and right knee issues plus the saddle was uncomfortable, correcting saddle height and setback, cleat positioning and a fitting a far more appropriate saddle cured all those issues.

Charles, Cannondale Evo 56cmI successfully completed 300 miles in three days straight after the fit with no saddle discomfort, I then completed the full distance of the Mallorca 312 again with no discomfort, so far so good then; many thanks. Edit from Paul Charles came with saddle issues, always a concern but especially in this case seeing as his goal for 2019 is to ride the Tour De France route, in preparation he had been riding 100+ miles on consecutive days and the saddle discomfort had been getting worse. The problem was caused by over extending, solved by lowering the saddle from 784mm to 765mm, the leg angle now being 30 degrees. By over extending he was putting far to much pressure on his sit bones and saddle area; the correct saddle height-leg angle alleviating the saddle issue. 

Andrew, Specialized Allez 58cm: Just a note of thanks for the opportunity to draw upon your evident expertise yesterday; I rode today and the bike feels noticeably quicker, more comfortable and more efficient...so thank you Edit from Paul Saddle height increased from 773mm to 804mm, setback also increased, cleats set to ‘ball of foot’ with correct ‘angulation’ and ‘Q’ factor spacing and Bontrager inForm BioDynamic High Arch Insoles fitted.

Lena, 'Ribble R872' road bike: I rode the Ribble on Sunday and Monday and no numb feet on both days! Thanks again for your help. C and N Edit, Saddle lowered and effectively set back to achieve ideal ‘KOPS’ (Knee over pedal spindle) and ‘BMR’ (Body mass representation). Lena had also undergone surgery on both feet and had suffered numb feet since the operation. As part of a Dynamic fit we reset her cleats to ‘ball of foot’ with correct ‘angulation’ and ‘Q’ factor spacing as well as fitted medium arch footbeds, all combined to help alleviate these issues.

Jack, Cannondale Caad 9, original USA built 58cm. I had the bike fit with Paul. It was a relaxed and interesting morning in the shop. Paul made some really beneficial changes to my bikes setup that should result in significant improvements on the road. What was particularly reassuring was that while the shop is kitted out with all the necessary equipment, and Paul can draw on best practice, he also has a wealth of experience from working with a variety of riders C and N Edit. Cleats reset to ball of foot over pedal axle and correct angulation. Saddle raised 21mm and effectively set back to improve ideal ‘KOPS’ (Knee over pedal spindle) and ‘BMR’ (Body mass representation).

Frances, Dolan Road bike. I was a bit apprehensive about coming for a bike fit. As a relative newbie triathlete not from a cycling background, I was afraid of being scrutinised and judged. However, my experience was completely the opposite. Paul was really friendly, patient and kind. I felt that he really took the time to get to know me as an individual, making an effort to understand my riding style, abilities, future goals and current niggles. He was somehow able to accommodate all of that into the adjustments he made. After only one ride post-fit, I have already noticed a significant difference in how my bike handles - I feel much more stable cornering and descending. I am already more powerful on the flat, quicker up the hills, and much less sore after 5 hours on the road! This has certainly been the best investment I have made in my cycling/triathlon career so far and I have already recommended that my Dad come along for a fit too.. Best wishes, Fran.

Dean Howe, Scott Speedster: A great experience. I learned a lot about the geometry of cycling and came away with a much more comfortable riding bike. I was getting sore knees on longer rides which have now be sorted.

David Jorr, Canyon Endurance AL7 Small. Hi Paul, thankyou so much for yesterday, it was a real pleasure; I learned a lot. My back was not as bad a problem as for many others, but the readjustment you made made an immediate difference. Time will tell in the longer term, I am so glad I met Amy last summer on our Mont Ventoux tour. Now I feel I have found a really good LBS which every cyclist needs...even though it isn't very local!I will need to get more things in future.Cycling really is a life affirming sport and yesterday was another Bravo moment. Best wishes David. C and N Edit. Cleats reset to ball of foot over pedal axle and correct angulation. Saddle lowered and effectively set back to improve ideal ‘KOPS’ (Knee over pedal spindle) and ‘BMR’ (Body mass representation), all combined to reduce stress on David's back and help reduce an issue with a sore sacroiliac joint 

Martin, Dynamic bike fit BMC Road racer sl02: The service was excellent. Paul walked me through each step, gave me the information I needed, was happy to explain what he was doing and why it was important. His enthusiasm for cycling and wanting to help people enjoy their rides more by being in a good position on the bike is clear. He wasn't pushing sales, in fact he suggested a cheap replacement set of bars to try to ensure they were the right fit, and that I then upgrade once I am happy after testing for the season. Overall I was extremely satisfied and felt that I received excellent value for money. I will be bringing my bike in for future servicing needs, as well as upgrades

Eddie Jenvey 'Sizing fit' on his existing Trek Madone to be sized up for a new Trek DomaneFollowing up on your changes to my Madone, now that I have had a more representative ride, a club ride of about 30 miles yesterday, my most significant impression was of the almost complete absence of leg fatigue. I found it much easier to keep pace with the group. The overall result is very encouraging and I will undoubtedly be sticking with your settings.I find it amazing to think that for a number of years I have unknowingly handicapped myself with a poor setup.I am looking forward to more club runs through the month of November, and even more so to the delivery and riding of the Domane.

Michael, 'Cube SCR LITENING'Paul. Thanks for sending over the bike fit data, and more importantly thank you so much for your time on Saturday. I can't tell you how much I enjoyed the bike fit - the whole experience was really interesting and I'm really pleased with the result. I actually rode the bike into work on Monday (instead of my normal commuting bike, the Bianchi) and it felt comfortable and certainly faster than before. You made the whole experience really enjoyable and easy to understand, thank you so much again, Michael. C and N edit, Saddle went up 40mm and setback increased from 59 to 89mm, the leg angle went from 45 to 30 degrees and the setback helped to enage the core to alievate shoulder and neck pain as Michael now had the correct ‘BMR’ (Body mass representation); shorter stem fitted and bars lowered.

Chris Rooney Trek Domane 54cm: I completed my normal training route with numerous personal best times on Strava. I felt less fatigued, more comfortable and more powerful. Climbing Box Hill I again felt more power climbing in the saddle, transfering from an 'in the saddle' to an 'out of the saddle effort' on a climb also seemed far more fluid than before: C and N Edit, saddle raised, nose lowered and set back, bars dropped, Chris's 'fit' was greatly helped by the fact that he had the correct bike, in the correct, specification in the correct size, this was in conclusion the perfect fit.

David, 58cm Specialized Tarmac. Hi Paul, Wow what a great job you have done to my bike, It’s a dream to ride, been out today covered 50 miles, set loads of PB on strava so clearly a lot faster and a joy to ride. Thanks Again, Dave
Trevor Browse, sizing fit 'Focus' road bike: Excellent ride back with new saddle height; felt like a different bike. Edit from Paul, the 'sizing' fit was to determine the size of a new Trek Domane SL6 Disc. There is often value using a current bike to 'size' a new one, providing the current bike is set up correctly of course. In Trevor's case we raised his saddle nearly 20mm, for many that could mean they actually need a different size bike, so if they'd based the size of their new bike size, on their current fit, on their current bike, they may have ending up buying the wrong size; you'll be amazed how often we see that! 

Andrew Robinson 54cm Specialized Roubaix. The bike fit has been a revelation, no more stiffness and really back enjoying the riding again. Thanks so much, best regards, Andrew. Edit addition from Paul, Andrew's goals were to get back to pain free cycling as he had been having lower back issues.

Mark, Trek DomaneI've Just came back from the high mountains after the bike fit, it made a big difference; to be honest I'm actually quite surprised just how much difference it made! Really, really pleased Paul, thank you.

John Bell Cervelo Rd bike. I am very pleased that I made the decision to have a bike fitting with C&N. Even though I was able cycle for long distances (80 miles +) without issues, I felt that I was not getting the most out of my rides and wanted to optimise my position to get more speed on my longer rides. 

I spent over 2 hours with Paul, who spent considerable time discussing my riding objectives and taking numerous measurements before making various adjustments to my bike and cleats. By the end of the fitting my riding position had changed dramatically, with a significantly higher saddle and much lower handlebars. We discussed whether the changes were too much for 1 hit but decided to give it go. 

I felt a bit tight across the shoulders during my first couple of rides so went back to see Paul. He offered to raise the bars but thought that I might be tensing up too much and suggested that I make conscious effort to relax in the new position. This tip worked and no further adjustments were required.  

A few months on, I am very happy with my new riding position. I’m riding faster and feel that I am now getting the most out of my rides, especially when I decide to push hard.  I would highly recommend the both the fitting and the after-service provided by C&N. John Bell. C and N Edit. Cleats reset so ball of foot over pedal axle. Frame stack quite high so stem was lowered, Saddle raised from 727 to 761mm and setback went from 46 to 71mm. 

Denise, Cannondale Synapse 48cm. I'm really pleased with the bike fitting. I don't get back ache at all now, and the cycling definitely feels far easier than it used to. My friend Sue used to drop my on Tilburstow Hill; last weekend I had to stop to wait for her - twice!! Ha ha! Thanks again.

Stuart Cannondale Caad 12 disc: Bike fit made a big difference Paul; instantly felt far better; three months later it still does. What is suprising is that I have have been fitted elsewhere before by a very respected store; yet in comparison the difference after your fitting is astonishing.

Robert Trek Domane 54cm: Before the bike fit my cycling friend would drop me on a ride; after the bike fit for the very first time I dropped him; happy!

Richard from Tri Surrey, Wiler Zero 7 Medium, Bike fit made a big difference Paul; feel more powerful and more efficient; just completed 'Ride London 100' in 4 hrs-10 mins. (Saddle was raised from 777mm to 792mm and setback increased from 50 to 80mm).

Gary, Trek Domane 54cm. Hi Paul, just wanted to say thank you for the bike fit and what a great difference it has made; I did the 46 miles (Ride London) on Sunday in 2hrs 40min which having never been past 31 miles before I was very happy with.

Kieran Mekk Poggio 1.6, 54cm. What seemed like small subtle differences made during the fit, actually translated to alleviating the issues I came in with; many thanks Paul.
Brian, Bianchi C2C: Many thanks for setting me up on my new bike Paul, worked at treat, and yes I succesfully completed my 'London to Paris' challenge ride; thanks again.

Jacqueline, Bianchi Via Nirone 7 Dama: My bike after the fitting feels REALLY GOOD, so thank you! I think you did the perfect job

Bob, Trek 1.2: I couldn't believe the difference Paul, in comparison to how it felt prior to the fitting it now feels 'effortless', 

Dawn, Specialized Ruby. On my first ride after the bike fit, bike isn't twitchy at all and I feel I've got more control. With the narrow handle bars, I feel more tucked in as well. Pedalling feels smoother, gear change is smooth and quiet. Many thanks to Paul and you for the bike fit, my Ruby really feels like a new bike. All the best to C&N Cycles.

Phill Tromans Hello Paul, hope you're well. You'll be pleased to hear that the fit seems to have had a really good effect on my riding; after a month I've felt much stronger all round and have been able to ride faster and for longer. Phill Tromans
Chris, 58cm Speclialized Allez, email sent in reply to our email attaching Chris's bike fit data: Dear Paul, Thank you ever so much for this, it was truly a pleasure meeting you yesterday and I really felt like you took your time and cared, to ensure I got the best possible fit and experience. It counts for a lot. Indeed, I was so happy with the ride home, I got out on my bike again this morning and out for 80miles tomorrow morning in the new Forrest. Fantastic...EDIT Chris saddle height went from 794 to 822mm, 130mm stem fitted and bars rotated to increase reach

Dan Hunt: Giant Propel. Thanks for the time yesterday, sat in the turbo last night for an hour and could feel the difference... 

Julian: Specialized Allez 56cm: Saddle height was increased from 735mm to 757mm, before the 'fit' it just felt wrong, now it simply doesn't; it feels perfectly natural and more efficient; I can ride for miles now!

Hannah via social media: Great bike fitting this morning at candncycles, can't wait to pick up my Trek Emonda in a few days!

Guy: Planet X Pro Carbon. First ride after the fit I timed myself as usual up a climb I have ridden literally hundreds of times on my daily commute; I have never been so fast.

Rob: 'Whyte Suffolk': Thanks you for fitting session Paul, it has proved very useful and I learnt a lot also.  My commute time was almost immediately down by about 5 mins on average, with less fatigue. My times are steadily improving also as the legs get used to the new position!  So all in all a very good return. Kind regards, Rob  

Bhuvant: Giant Defy: The bike fit simply made a big difference Paul

Stewart: Trek Domane: I was just quicker, I was significantly quicker, by minutes, not seconds!

Simon: Boardman Team Road.Just as you said, I instantly noticed a difference, feeling more power and vastly improved endurance.

Crispin: www.cavespider.co.uk, Specialized Allez. The changes you made did have a direct effect best demonstrated immediately after I had seen you. The hill climb described on Strava as 'Fullers Wood Top section’ takes me normally around 4’40”. After your adjustments I did this in 4’07”, a similar result on a number of other sections on my route. So really pleased, thank you.

Steve, Cervelo TT Bike. You were right, it made a difference; PB in first two time trials!

Neil, Trek Emonda: Just to let you know the bike felt incredible and the fit is very comfortable. Overall I'm thrilled with the purchase. Think I'm going to be spending plenty of time in the saddle from now on! Massive thanks to you and the team, particularly for the fitting, which feels great.

Joanne: First ride after my Bike Fit a not very fit me did a PB on Box Hill!

All listed below from Enigma Bicycleworks where I worked until June 2016

Neil: Bike great - 50 miles ridden, stem exactly right, higher saddle a revelation... Two Strava KoMs in the last 10 days...Neil (Click the following link for an account by Neil for Cycletechreview.com.)

Steve: I have had my first real ride yesterday evening with the CTC and the changes you made to the geometry on my Cannondale became apparent.  I was noticeably much faster and even the hill climbing seemed easier.  Also I think as I become more used to the different riding position there will be more performance to come.  The only downside is that I may be banished to the fast group as 22 mph plus on the flat with no drafting is a bit above the moderate group pace.  Edit:I have now done longer distances including a 98 mile ride with some fairly stiff gradients and the new set up worked fine for that especially as I am now getting more used to it.

Andy: You were absolutely right about the extra 30 mm of saddle height on my current bike. A great improvement and I haven't looked back since.Regards, Andy.

Mark: The bike fit was a huge help. I have less strain in my shoulders, and yet I can still get low on the drops and out of the air. You're assessment of needing to move back 20-30mm was spot on. I'm riding on the hoods now, rather than back on the top 'bends' before the hoods.

Nick: Thanks again for yesterday. I had a great ride back. Roads wet but not too bad and the bike is a treat. Comfortable but lively. Must be the combination of that lovely frame and that expert bike fit!

Grigor Wallace 'British Best All Rounder' Bronze Medalist 2013  Via Twitter: Grigor Wallace @velopeak @Smithsrcc @ bike fit he said layback post, I said straight, now changed 2 layback #bikefitterknowsbest

Martin:I went out on my usual club run on Saturday featuring 80 miles and 5500 feet of climbing. You may recall you heightened by saddle by 14mm which was obviously a significant increase. The good news is that I had less back pain than normal and the handling was not altered. If anything I felt more at one with the bike.

Derek: If you recall, when you did the finished set up you raised the saddle height by 2 cm and shortened the stem (I think) to 110cms. I now know that you were definitely right on both measures. The saddle height seems to have cleared some knee and hip problems that I was getting.